The current stats

[AlMac]

The stat that matters most is the number of points accumulated in a season vs the rest of the teams in the same league. On that simple measure, Accies & the manager are doing fine.
Someone mentioned that any other manager would be sacked with that record. If that were the case then Partick, ICT and Dundee should already be in the market.
If you then consider the budget for players as a relevant factor (which I do) then you would add Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Ross County to that list.
The reality is that we should/could have converted some of the draws into victories and would have been sitting alongside St Johnstone in the top 6. I remain optimistic because we have been competitive in most games so far and don't see any reason why that should change.

[redandwhite1874]

The stat that matters most is the number of points accumulated in a season vs the rest of the teams in the same league. On that simple measure, Accies & the manager are doing fine.
Someone mentioned that any other manager would be sacked with that record. If that were the case then Partick, ICT and Dundee should already be in the market.
If you then consider the budget for players as a relevant factor (which I do) then you would add Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Ross County to that list.
The reality is that we should/could have converted some of the draws into victories and would have been sitting alongside St Johnstone in the top 6. I remain optimistic because we have been competitive in most games so far and don't see any reason why that should change.

Spot on.

[smc4761]

Taking Big Wurzl advice I did look on t'internet at the starts and they do not make for good reading

Since MC took over we have played 71 league games, including todays defeat to Celtic. We have won 16 of them, a win percentage of just over 22%

For last season and this season, 13 wins in 56 games

What about other teams about us in the league. Well Partick and Dundee have won 16 games ICT 17 games, Ross County 18 Motherwell 19.

Much as I would love to see him doing well it just not going to happen. We normally have a bad run of games January February and lets be honest December has been crap as well. Too many dropped points.

Other teams around us are poor as well but at least they do win the occasional game when it matters

[H9crx]

Canning out

[redandwhite1874]

The only good thing about our poor form is that it allows the knicker wetters to show their stuff and get all excited with their Canning out outbursts - we all know its not going to happen

[YeOldeHamiltonian]

The second half today was inexcusable.No ifs,buts or maybe's

[Stevie Clarke]

Some harsh words being said after defeats by Celtic, Rangers and Celtic again. If we lose the next three league games, then maybe such comments will be justified.

Having said that, if we aren't finishing bottom, then who is? Killie will be ok as long as they have Coulibaly. County as long as they have Boyce and Schalk. Motherwell don't get relegated. Dundee? The other night shows us what they can do. Thistle manage wins at Perth and Dingwall. Inverness are probably 11th at worst. Suspensions and injuries have hit us at precisely the wrong time. Or maybe the right time, if we are writing these games off anyway! Imrie misses Motherwell but he hasn't been pulling up any trees anyway. Clearly we need a right back and a goal scorer in the window. Could Morris be tempted back?

[H9crx]

Some harsh words being said after defeats by Celtic, Rangers and Celtic again. If we lose the next three league games, then maybe such comments will be justified.

Having said that, if we aren't finishing bottom, then who is? Killie will be ok as long as they have Coulibaly. County as long as they have Boyce and Schalk. Motherwell don't get relegated. Dundee? The other night shows us what they can do. Thistle manage wins at Perth and Dingwall. Inverness are probably 11th at worst. Suspensions and injuries have hit us at precisely the wrong time. Or maybe the right time, if we are writing these games off anyway! Imrie misses Motherwell but he hasn't been pulling up any trees anyway. Clearly we need a right back and a goal scorer in the window. Could Morris be tempted back?

Harsh words not due to Celtic seve co etc! More to do with the 22% win rate of Cannings very very poor management run!

The let's give canning a go crowd have now turned. All that is left is Red and White shouting but we are a small club,but wee are not 12th, but teams with bigger budgets are below us. while drinking the clubs cool aid.

[Willie Wastle]

I posted this 3 weeks ago. It's still true. We're 4 points off top six, and one of 7 clubs separated by just 4 points.

Truth is the margin between success (staying up in the top flight) and failure (being relegated) is wafer thin. The bottom 7 clubs in the SPL are bunched tight, and any 1 or 2 of us could go down.

Put it another way: after the top 4 or 5 teams in Scotland, there's us - alongside half a dozen other clubs. That's the highest level the club has been competing at in my lifetime - and nearly everybody's lifetime. (If Alex Neil had completed a full season with us in the SPL, he might have done better, but we'll never know.)

If we finish 11th or 12th and get relegated, will that be proof that Martin Canning is a dud? No more than finishing 6th will be proof that he's a genius. The truth lies in the middle, and it's this: Accies have a system, and we promote managers from within. Any manager within our system stands to do well, as long as he sticks to our values. Martin Canning is simply a good working part of a good set-up.

We can always do better, and some fans will complain unless we're top of the league (and perhaps even then). But I'm content with where we are at present, while continuing to hope we can improve. Perhaps a change would squeeze a bit more out of the squad, but there's more of a risk that a new manager would send us into freefall first. Like the Board, I'm happy to continue with Canning for the foreseeable future

[redandwhite1874]

Wise words Willie, well worth repeating.

[Bomber Harris]

p.82 w.19 d.25 l.38 wr 23.17%
In nearly 2 years of management that is a shocking stat. Canning must go.

[redandwhite1874]

He uses statistics like a drunken man uses lamp-posts; for support rather than for illumination.

[WAC]

These people who are still in support of canning are obviously the crowd who were hand picked to attend the meal and "fans forum" a few month ago.

[redandwhite1874]

By utilising that common hand picking method of putting it on twitter

[H9crx]

By utilising that common hand picking method of putting it on twitter

lol R&w had a semi after his fantastic chat with uncle Les!

Hand picked fluffer

[redandwhite1874]

It was yet another example of the Internet warriors not appearing, for perhaps the 5th or 6th time.

[YeOldeHamiltonian]

It was yet another example of the Internet warriors not appearing, for perhaps the 5th or 6th time.

That will be the "internet warriors" who do not get asked like many of us.Coincidentally one of the "internet warriors",was called to a meeting I hear and had a "robust" exchange of views.

The Accies support is very patient-too much so.That drivel capitulation in the second half v ten men sums up the "after You Claude" approach when it comes to The Old Firm on and off the field by all at the club.

We will see the reaction if McGhee as per usual tactically outfoxes Clueless.

[Bomber Harris]

A bit of a gap beginning to open now at the foot of the table with Partick now 5 clear, remember we where above the start of December? motherwell 4 and Dundee & killie 2 above ourselves and ICT. Get a experienced manager in now and it could save our season, stick with that clown then it's curtains.